Friday, March 30, 2018

Islamic Incitement To Violence Imam's Warning Image Or Substance?!

Islamic Incitement To Violence Imam's Warning Image Or Substance?! Vital Information from MEMRI!! "During his February 2 Friday sermon at the North Hudson Islamic Educational Center in New Jersey, Imam Mohamed Moussa, Secretary-General of the Tri-State Islamic Council, called on preachers and Islamic teachers to be mindful of what they say in sermons and schools and to avoid anything that could be considered incitement to violence. His remarks came against the backdrop of several inciting Friday sermons, including from the New Jersey area, published by MEMRI in recent months. Imam Moussa warn..."

    I learned of this from a post by Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch.  The post includes a video which I have embedded below and a transcript.  The kutbah is in Arabic, so turn down the sound and watch the Imam's gestures & expressions and the audience reactions while reading the closed captions.

[Internal links in transcript added.]
    Mohamed Moussa: Setting our priorities straight had an effect on our Islamic discourse in this country. I am saying this because there are entire organizations with budgets in the millions, whose only job is [to monitor] us. These are called “institutions of Islamophobia”. Their job is to monitor everything that we say. There are no longer any hidden mosques, schools, or even small study groups1. Out of the blue you find yourself in the mainstream media, and even though you may be preaching in a small mosque, you are harming the entire American Muslim community2. It happens all of a sudden. You don’t even notice it.

We need to set our priorities straight`3, so that our discourse becomes more disciplined. Ever since President Trump announced that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, and that the U.S. embassy would be moved there, the feelings of Muslims have undoubtedly been inflamed. Therefore, [preachers] who are not skilled speakers4 have spoken badly.

In this country, you enjoy total freedom. However, this freedom ends where the rights of others begin. In other words, this freedom ends if you rip the social fabric of society, by attacking a minority or a certain religion, for example. If you attack a minority or a certain religion, this is defined by the law and the constitution as hate speech. It might even be considered a hate crime, if it contains incitement to murder or to violence5.

The congregation is undoubtedly a source of pressure on the imams and preachers at the mosques. Many imams and preachers in mosques and teachers in [Islamic] schools give in to the pressure of the common people. An imam like that wants to please the people, so he delivers undisciplined fiery sermons. Then he finds himself in a dilemma: either he is forced to apologize publicly – or the Muslims are forced to apologize on his behalf or to disavow him – or else Islamophobia will exploit this to make much greater strides.6

After [Trump’s] declaration, some preachers… As I said, about 2,000 or 2,300 preachers and imams deliver sermons in the U.S., and only six preachers were found [delivering inciting sermons]… Six imams is nothing, but they were used in a lot of propaganda. All the newspapers wrote about them, and the entire media spoke about them. They described the Jews in words that were considered to be hate speech. Furthermore, what some of them said in their supplications could have been interpreted as incitement to violence against that minority. Now there are calls to monitor the mosques, and to deny the preachers any immunity if something like this happens. The New York Post published an extensive article about this. The media has been dealing with this ever since, and this has caused many problems.


As I told you, six out of 2,000 spoke in an irresponsible manner. Now, the New York Post is saying that it was a grave mistake to succumb to pressure and stop the NYC mosque monitoring program. In other words, they want to monitor everything that’s going on in the mosques. Tomorrow, they might move on to the schools, and say that these Islamist schools produce potential terrorists, and people who hate our society, all because of videos that might emerge from these schools of teachers who thought they were speaking behind closed doors7. This way, the money, blood, and expertise we have invested in these schools will become at risk. Tomorrow, they might tell us to close those schools. What are we going to do? It will all be done in keeping with the law.

So every [Islamic] institution must make sure that anyone speaking on its behalf – I am not speaking for myself, right now… They must make sure that anyone speaking on their behalf is knowledgeable, informed, and responsible. Responsible8! Otherwise, all the Muslims will pay the price, especially in the coming days9.

Yesterday, we conducted a full-day workshop by the [Tri-State] Imams Council. We invited imams and teachers in Islamic schools. About 45 people accepted our invitation. The workshop lasted about six hours, 10:30 to 16:30. We discussed everything: legal perspectives, the characteristics of religious discourse, and what you should and should not say. There were many questions yesterday. Many questions! Everybody who attended benefited from the workshop, Allah be praised. At the [Tri-State] Imams Council, of which I have the honor to be Secretary-General, we demand that no mosque appoints any imam before he obtains a certificate from us that states that he sat down with us, and received an explanation about what he should and should not say. Otherwise, the mosque will be held responsible.10


I have followed all the articles on this subject. Most of the [cases of incitement] were quoted from the supplications. You know, sometimes when we get to the supplications… Our sheikhs remember supplications by heart, and they just recite them. So they start saying: “Oh Allah, count them one by one, disperse them to the very last one, and do not leave a single one of them”. Naturally11, people say “Amen”, and then they write [in the press] that the people got all excited, and that they agree to this and want Him to annihilate [the Jews]. According to the law, the call for annihilation constitutes incitement to violence. Naturally, I know that the preacher merely recites supplications he knows by heart, and does not realize that this might be seen as incitement to violence, or anything.


We should be mindful of what we say. This is prayer, not war. I am not declaring war against anyone. These negative supplications should disappear from our mosques. Who are we cursing? There are Jews standing next to us in our demonstrations. There are Christians in Palestine and elsewhere who support the cause. Why should I curse them? Why? What have they done?



    So, before the internet and before 9/11/01, mosques & madrassas were covert?  But now there is MEMR to translate the videos they upload so we  can learn what they are preaching & teaching.

harming the Ummah

    How does the Imam who recites the genocide hadith or victory prayer harm the Ummah?  Only by exposing the reality of Islamic doctrine & practice to the public.


    What are their priorities? Inculcating hatred & inciting violence while maintaining the 'religion of peace' pretense!!

trained speakers

    How does a trained speaker pray for victory over the disbelieving folk and recite the genocide hadith without giving vicarious observers a clue?

Hate & Incitement

hate speech

    5:14. And from those who call themselves Christians, We took their covenant, but they have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. So We planted amongst them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection (when they discarded Allâh's Book, disobeyed Allâh's Messengers and His Orders and transgressed beyond bounds in Allâh's disobedience), and Allâh will inform them of what they used to do.

60:4. Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibrâhim (Abraham) and those with him, when they said to their people: "Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allâh, we have rejected you, and there has started between us and you, hostility and hatred for ever, until you believe in Allâh Alone," except the saying of Ibrâhim (Abraham) to his father: "Verily, I will ask for forgiveness (from Allâh) for you, but I have no power to do anything for you before Allâh ." Our Lord! In You (Alone) we put our trust, and to You (Alone) we turn in repentance, and to You (Alone) is (our) final Return,

3:32. Say (O Muhammad): "Obey Allâh and the Messenger (Muhammad )." But if they turn away, then Allâh does not like the disbelievers.

2:161. Verily, those who disbelieve, and die while they are disbelievers, it is they on whom is the Curse of Allâh and of the angels and of mankind, combined.

Riyad as-Salihin : In-book reference / Book 1, Hadith 387

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet  said, "When Allah loves a slave, calls out Jibril and says: 'I love so-and-so; so love him'. Then Jibril loves him. After that he (Jibril) announces to the inhabitants of heavens that Allah loves so- and-so; so love him; and the inhabitants of the heavens (the angels) also love him and then make people on earth love him".[Al- Bukhari and Muslim].Another narration of Muslim is: Messenger of Allah, said: "When Allah loves a slave, He calls Jibril (Gabriel) and says: 'I love so-and-so; so love him.' And then Jibril loves him. Then he (Jibril) announces in the heavens saying: Allah loves so-and-so; so love him; then the inhabitants of the heavens (the angels) also love him; and then people on earth love him. And when Allah hates a slave, He calls Jibril and says: 'I hate so- and-so, so hate him.' Then Jibril also hates him. He (Jibril) then announces amongst the inhabitants of heavens: 'Verily, Allah hates so- and-so, so you also hate him.' Thus they also start to hate him. Then he becomes the object of hatred on the earth also".[Al- Bukhari and Muslim].

Allah does not like disbelievers and curses them. Whomever Allah hates, Believers must hate. Got a clue yet?!


8:65. O Prophet (Muhammad )! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are people who do not understand.

9:5. Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikûn (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).


    The c ongregation pressures the Imam to spew fiery kutbah so he either displeases the congregants or provides ammunition for critics.  Who does the Imam serve, Allah or his slaves? Is Allah on the siede of the passionate congregation or the cowardly Imam?  Why would passionate kutbah  arm Islam's critics? 
Muwatta Malik : USC-MSA web (English) reference / Book 21, Hadith 7

Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar said that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade travelling with a Qur'an in the land of the enemy. Malik commented, "That is out of fear that the enemy will get hold of it."


    So, when preaching & teaching behind closed doors, with no Kuffar in the audience, they tell it as, inculcating hate and inciting terrorism and in public where we can hear them, they tone it down. Let him who has a brain wise up and demand removal of Muslims from our midst.

Image or reality?

    Imams are being warned and trained to avoid speech which may be considered inciting. Not incitement per se but the appearance of incitement. That is a vital clue, who can grasp it? 


    "Loose lips sink ships." 'Moderate Islam" while we are listening, and the real thing in private. We get it!

the price

    The electorate will discover the truth about Islam: that it is a system of predation and totalitarianism, rise up and demand the closure of it's institutions and expulsion of it's acolytes. Muslim Ban for real!!!

held responsible

    Islam, all it's acolytes & institutions including appendant bodies must be brought to account for the fact that Islam is a system of predation that inculcates hatred, incites violence and incentivizes acts of terrorism. The Secretary of State must designate Islam as a foreign terrorist organization.


    Why is it natural for the congregation to affirm  a supplication for the extermination of Jews? Do we really want to endorse and enable that nature by allowing  the proponents of genocide to reside here?

Incitement or not?

    Now, by God, I charge you to listen to the ample testimony of Tarek Fatah before the Canuck Senate!!! Turn up the audio and turn on closed captions!!!

Blessed well confirm it on his blog!!!

    This is the superogatory salat referred to:

2:286. Allâh burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned. "Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us (Jews and Christians); our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Maulâ (Patron, Suppor-ter and Protector, etc.) and give us victory over the disbelieving people."

Genocide hadith!

    This damnable saying was collected by the Muhaddithin of the two sahihs: Bukhari & Muslim. Click through the links to read the variants.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

    The gates of Jannah will not swing open to admit Muslims until they kill the last Jew! Incitement or not?! Trees and rocks will alert the Muslims to Jews hiding behind them and call them to the slaughter.

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