"We are disappointed that the Supreme Court has upheld a law that inhibits the work of human rights and conflict resolution groups. The 'material support law' – which is aimed at putting an end to terrorism – actually threatens our work and the work of many other peacemaking organizations that must interact directly with groups that have engaged in violence. The vague language of the law leaves us wondering if we will be prosecuted for our work to promote peace and freedom."
inhibits the work of
human rights groups
What human right is advanced by communicating with any organization whose tactical objective is genocide? The conflict with HAMAS is existential. Their Charter quotes the infamous genocide hadith."The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).[Article 7]
The only thing to say to an existential enemy dedicated to your destruction is "go to Hell!". That statement won't violate the material support law.
The human right at stake is the right to live, free from aggression and the threat thereof. That right is violated by HAMAS. Nothing you can say to them will reduce their determination to perpetrate genocide. Only a damned fool thinks otherwise. Only a traitor claims that HAMAS can be pacified.
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Carter has always been a flaming nutcase. Obama is following in his footsteps, step by step.
Say, Ben, check out this yahoo web story about pakistan, where they mentioned your blog as a perfect example of what they want to block! You have arrived!
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When has Hammas ever committed genocide?
"If you want to promote peace, kill those who promote war. If you want to promote freedom, kill those who enslave people."
Who's promoting genocide?
Khalid, HAMAS is Islam. Islam committed genocide in the Hijaz, India, Assyria & Armenia. Perhaps you overlooked its 270 million victims.
I provided a link to the Charter of HAMAS. If you make use of it, you will discover that the charter quotes the infamous genocide hadith.
Genocide is sanctified in Al-Anfal 67. Go to Sunan Abu Dawud in any hadith search engine and look up pubes, you will see an instance of genocide perpetrated by your Profit. I quote it frequently, it should be included in "What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?".
you are incorrect. 8:67 speaks of the taking of prisoners not genocide.
8:67-" and it was not for any prophet to take prisoners until he is bound by a campaign. You desire the materials of this world, while God wants the hereafter for you, God is noble, wise."
No mention of genocide there. Furthermore, in that passage (as well as the ones preceding it, and following) God is talking directly to Muhammad about a specific incident that occurred; he's not speaking in general terms.
Again, why do I need to go to Sunan Abu Dawud when I have a Quran right in front of me? What makes the writers of hadith any more knowledgeable than the next man?
Dear khalid, HAMAS is Islam, by identity.
Read its charter carefully. Several of my blog posts go into great detail.
Dear Khalid,
Read the verse carefully.
8:67
8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allâh desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
This clause is key: "until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land".
Allah told Moe not to ransom prisoners for profit until he had made a great slaughter first.
This is supported by another verse.
47:4
47:4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihâd in Allâh's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islâm), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allâh to continue in carrying out Jihâd against the disbelievers till they embrace Islâm (i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire) or at least come under your protection], but if it had been Allâh's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allâh, He will never let their deeds be lost,
Key clause: "till when you have killed and wounded many of them".
When a certain tribe surrendered after a long seige, Moe had their men slaughtered and examined the boys. Those who had reached puberty were slaughtered.
Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:
Ben,
In regards to 8:67. Notice the difference between your translation and mine. Yours is full of parentheses in which you or your translator has added extra stuff for "clarity". All these parentheses have done is made what is clear confusing and convoluted and inserted opinion into scripture. Again, I don't need someone to tell me how to interpret what I'm reading. My brain works just fine
What I have translated as "bound by a campaign" you have as "slaughter in the land" The whole tenor of the verse has changed based on your translation. Your deceit continues.
Ben,
47:4 reads as follows:
"Therefore, if you encounter those who have rejected, then strike the necks, until you bind them, then secure the cords. You may then either set them free or ransom them until the war ends. That, and had God willed , He alone could have beaten them, but He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of God, He will never let their deeds be put to waste."
Your translations continue to be flawed in that they inject opinion into scripture where none is needed. But I suspect your intention is to purposefully mislead so I'm not suprised.
Ben,
You say "HAMAS is Islam, by identity." What a ludicrous statement. That doesn't even make any sense. I was unaware that Islam rested solely in the hands of Hamas. Belief and faith are not commodities to be parceled out by state entities to each and and every adherent. Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
Dear Khalid,
Your comment on 8:67 has been expanded into:
Al-Anfal 67 Sanctifies Genocide
Dear Khalid,
Your comment on 8:67 has been expanded into:
Al-Anfal 67 Sanctifies Genocide
Dear Khalid,
Your comment on 8:67 has been expanded into:
Al-Anfal 67 Sanctifies Genocide
Dear Khalid,
Your comment on 8:67 has been expanded into:
Al-Anfal 67 Sanctifies Genocide
Dear Khalid,
I need sleep. I will respond to your comment about 47:4 with a new post titled: Surah Muhammad 47.
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