Thursday, August 05, 2010

Islam vs. Kuffar: Adv. War

Barenaked Islam posted an article about a campaign to counter  SOIA's  Refuge From Islam bus advertisements.  BNI linked to Atlas Shrugs, where large, clear photos of the bus advertisements are displayed.

    Geller also posted a video of a joint interview with Dr. Waseem Sayed, an Ahmadiyya leader. The video is not pleasant viewing.  The interviewer is shrill and frequently interrupts Pamela, not allowing her to finish her answers.  Dr. Sayed got away with making  gross misstatements of material fact, unchallenged. claims:

  • love for all
  • hatred for none
    A visit to  discloses the fact that the outfit is part of  Ahmadiyya, a heretical sect.  On that site, they make more malignant claims.
  • Islam is peace
  • we condemn terrorism
  • Jihad: self defense only
  • separation of church and state
  • universal human rights
    Regular Muslims pronounced takfir on Ahmadiyya, because its founder claimed to be the Mahdi.  The sect is a persecuted minority in Asia.

    Love for all they say; what does Allah say? Who does Allah love?
  • Al-Muhsinûn those who do good, defined as participating in and financing jihad.  2:195  
  • Al-Muttaqûn the pious who fulfill their contracts 3:76
  • As-Sâbirin the patient ones who fight without weakening and degrading themselves  3:146
  • those who put their trust in him 3:160
  • Allah cursed the Jews but loves the  Al­Muhsinûn 5:12-13 
  • those who are equitable among the believers 49:9
  • those who fight in His Cause in rows (ranks) as if they were a solid structure  61:4

Allah only loves Muslims.

    Hatred for none, they say; what did Moe say?
  • "None loves the Ansar but a believer, and none hates them but a hypocrite. So Allah will love him who loves them, and He will hate him who hates them." Sahih Bukhari 5.58.127
  • Allah , the Exalted, hates the eloquent one among men who moves his tongue round (among his teeth), as cattle do. Sunan Abu Dawud 41.4987
    Islam is peace they say.  What did Allah say?
  • "Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you" 2:216
    • "The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." Sahih Bukhari 4.52.625
      • "to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) hate (it). 9:33
  • "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. " 8:39
  • "And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy" 8:60
  • "O Prophet (Muhammad)! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve" 8:65
  • "Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "  9:29
What did Moe say?
  • "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us " Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387
  • "jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist).  Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2523
  • "When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion. " Sunan Abu Dawud  23.3455

Islam is peace: in a pig's anus.

    Islam says "we condemn terrorism".  What  does Allah say?
  • "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve" 3:151
  • "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes." 8:12
  • "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies" 8:60
  • "Allâh brought them down from their forts and cast terror into their hearts, (so that) a group (of them) you killed, and a group (of them) you made captives. " 33:26
  • " But Allah's (Torment) reached them from a place whereof they expected it not, and He cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their own dwellings with their own hands and the hands of the believers." 59:2
    What did Moe say?
  • "Allah made me victorious by awe, (by His frightening my enemies) for a distance of one month's journey. " Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331
  • " have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)" Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220

Terrorism: Islamic sacrament

    Islam says Jihad is only for self-defense.  Allah and Moe said  it was offensive, on Islam's initiative, their "original religion".  What does Islamic law say?

Jihad is offensive

    Islam says that Mosque and state are separated. What did Allah say?
  • "33:36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error. " 33:36

Moe united spiritual & temporal power

    Islam says that it supports universal human rights.  What did Moe say?
  • Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." 
Are our blood and property sacred to Muslims?  Do we have the same rights that Muslims have?  How do we obtain those rights?   If you can correctly answer those three crucial questions, then you have learned something; important knowledge which you must  share with others.  If you can not answer those questions, you need to read the hadith reproduced immediately above.  If that does not solve the problem, you need a remedial reading course.

    You now know that each and every one of the claims made by "Muslims for peace"  in their advertisement and on their web site is malignant malarkey.  Lets review:

Allah only loves Muslims.

Islam is perpetual war

Terrorism: Islamic sacrament

Jihad is offensive

Moe united spiritual & temporal power

Our blood and property are not sacred to Muslims

We have no rights.


David Oppenheimer said...

Well, our friend Pamela Geller and Rev Terry Jones got bad-mouthed by this fellow here.

AND, looking at the videos, he may be coming across as credible. We need to be more careful how we make our case.

Ben said...

I looked up Imran on Facebook, which disclosed the fact that he is actively affiliated with Ahamadiyya, having founded their propaganda organ. I do not recall seeing disclosure of bias in his article.

Rev. Jones struck me as being unprepared for the interview. Personally, I do not do t.v. interviews. If I did, I would prepare by watching samples of the interviewer's work and reading any available reviews. I would also have a message prepared, and stick to it like a leech.

It is not possible to convey a complete comprehension of Islam in the frame of a five minute interview. Attempting to do so is a fool's errand. If I were going to do an interview, I would have a web page prepared with links to relevant information, and be prepared to reveal its url to the viewers.

As I pointed out in the post, the Ahmadiyya proponent who crossed tongues with Geller is not credible. His web site is full of malignant malarkey.

The interviewer and the other guest shouted Geller down, frequently interrupting her and preventing her from giving complete answers.

Expressing opposition to Islam is not PC. Although it is on the rise, it remains a minority position, little understood and held in contempt by officialdom and the mainstream media.

Those who oppose Islam can not expect to obtain fair and unbiased treatment from media interviewers.

Credibility is frequently more apparent than real.